The dialogue is the development of the thought of Prof. Scott Lash on China, capitalism, global politics, and media. Scott explores an emerging concept of sovereignty—originally suggested by Giorgio Agamben—that can be seen in social media, occupying movements, and local governance in China. It is a new way for people to live without becoming subordinated to or dependent upon external forces. According to Lash, while our society evolves into a new form of capitalism, namely cognitive capitalism, there is also a new conception of resistance, which can be understood as a resistance of means without end.